tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14710344.post116008862392699212..comments2023-11-03T05:46:44.728-04:00Comments on RevGalBlogPals: Ask the Matriarch: Time to GrowStephanie Anthony/She Revhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10089531643725874239noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14710344.post-1160231322692031512006-10-07T10:28:00.000-04:002006-10-07T10:28:00.000-04:00twng wouldn't be for higher would he?That sounds g...twng wouldn't be for higher would he?<BR/><BR/>That sounds great.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14654861033242845082noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14710344.post-1160186835554983472006-10-06T22:07:00.000-04:002006-10-06T22:07:00.000-04:00I came home this evening, late, from shopping with...I came home this evening, late, from shopping with my beloved daughter who is being married in three weeks to a beloved future son-in-law (we were shopping for the trousseau - isn't that lovely!). And the world's nicest guy - hereafter referred to as twng - had scrubbed the kitchen floor and loaded the dishwasher. How great is that!?! I pray for my sisters in ministry who are not married to twng!Nina Reederhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10164699526587736134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14710344.post-1160160508609166722006-10-06T14:48:00.000-04:002006-10-06T14:48:00.000-04:00My future husband is my wife!!! We have so many tr...My future husband is my wife!!! We have so many traditional roles reversed it's kind of funny. Except for one: *my* marriage proposal "didn't count."<BR/><BR/>Oh, make that two. I've got major mommy inclinations. although he at one point aspired to being a SAH dad.Gallycathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00347338626554551296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14710344.post-1160158792626075032006-10-06T14:19:00.000-04:002006-10-06T14:19:00.000-04:00I don't know, I could use a "wife" or a "domestic ...I don't know, I could use a "wife" or a "domestic engineer". I have a wonderful husband, but he doesn't clean or see what I see. <BR/><BR/>But yes I do get tired of the stereotypes. And I imagine some of the men hate them too.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14654861033242845082noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14710344.post-1160152808954475722006-10-06T12:40:00.000-04:002006-10-06T12:40:00.000-04:00As to the piece about listening to our wives when ...As to the piece about listening to our wives when we think about moving on, how many other female clergy would really, really, like to have a "wife?" Boy, do I get tired of the male/female stereotypes!Nina Reederhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10164699526587736134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14710344.post-1160144521601081782006-10-06T10:22:00.000-04:002006-10-06T10:22:00.000-04:00Jan, a great job, I liked how you described the sm...Jan, a great job, I liked how you described the small church andhow they see themselves.<BR/><BR/>WS you wrote "Sometimes I just get tired of the assumption that clergy = male (and I know you do too)." Yep, been there done that dance too many times, this and alot of other reasons are why I left the denomination that excluded women and others that didn't fit their mold.<BR/><BR/>Thanks Pastor Nines for your additional thoughts. It was very painful to leave family behind after being with them 5 years. I really grieve missing them. And here I am already making myself part of this family that has opened their arms to welcome us.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14654861033242845082noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14710344.post-1160135285022890682006-10-06T07:48:00.000-04:002006-10-06T07:48:00.000-04:00Jan, also BRILLIANT! Thank you.Jan, also BRILLIANT! Thank you.will smamahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06632209393133155385noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14710344.post-1160132944700919892006-10-06T07:09:00.000-04:002006-10-06T07:09:00.000-04:00The good news part of the pastoring job is the tru...The good news part of the pastoring job is the trusting, grace-filled way that our brothers and sisters (even the grumpy ones) allow us to share many of the most profound moments of their lives. The bad news part of the pastoring job is the trusting, grace-filled way that our brothers and sisters allows us to share the most profound moments of their lives. Because when the time comes to move on (for our sakes and for the sake of the proclamation of the gospel) we are leaving members of our family behind - family members that our church rules prohibit us from continuing to include in our lives. That's very tough on everybody, but, I think, the price of being a faithful pastor and of being a supportive and loving member of the body of Christ. No doubt about it though. In this instance, love really does bite.Nina Reederhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10164699526587736134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14710344.post-1160115486345050362006-10-06T02:18:00.000-04:002006-10-06T02:18:00.000-04:00book! what book? first I've heard of it .... sound...book! what book? first I've heard of it .... sounds fabulous though!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14710344.post-1160104401674240422006-10-05T23:13:00.000-04:002006-10-05T23:13:00.000-04:00Also don't forget to thank Jan! Her comments were ...Also don't forget to thank Jan! Her comments were a little further down in the post, but she's also a great helper with AtM. :DGallycathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00347338626554551296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14710344.post-1160100227475467792006-10-05T22:03:00.000-04:002006-10-05T22:03:00.000-04:00Enjoyed reading the AtM and your comments. Gallyca...Enjoyed reading the AtM and your comments. <BR/><BR/>Gallycat, thanks for your good work here. Abi, thanks for your contributions.<BR/><BR/>I appreciate the comments related to intentional language.St. Casserolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14046979001194772038noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14710344.post-1160099649422514342006-10-05T21:54:00.000-04:002006-10-05T21:54:00.000-04:00Once again AtM gives us a great place to start. Th...Once again AtM gives us a great place to start. Thank you all!<BR/><BR/>There are also some great transition resources available from The Alban Institute.<BR/><BR/>Good point, SB - I was a bit taken aback when I hit those links before the edit. No need to apologize Abi, but I do appreciate your edits. Sometimes I just get tired of the assumption that clergy = male (and I know you do too).will smamahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06632209393133155385noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14710344.post-1160099368382058382006-10-05T21:49:00.000-04:002006-10-05T21:49:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.will smamahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06632209393133155385noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14710344.post-1160098796518999942006-10-05T21:39:00.001-04:002006-10-05T21:39:00.001-04:00I'm four days away from my last Sunday at my forme...I'm four days away from my last Sunday at my former church. The only way I could come to terms with the hurt I was inflicting by saying goodbye was to actually trust God to take care of them and me and to say goodbye with intentionality and honesty. Damn, it's hard work -- particularly the trusting part.<BR/><BR/>Peace,<BR/>Miltondon't eat alonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16407613063346798197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14710344.post-1160098772841349452006-10-05T21:39:00.000-04:002006-10-05T21:39:00.000-04:00To all,I offered the last two as s suggestion of p...To all,<BR/>I offered the last two as s suggestion of persons who blogged about their trying to discern staying or leaving. I don't know that I meant to say they have the answer, and perhaps that should have been written that way. That was my mistake I wrote the part on the possible links late at night. I suggested them as persons who also were wondering about going or staying. Yes they are from a male perspective and reference male clergy exclusively so take them with a grain of salt. But it more had to do with the struggle than the male exclusion. Sorry about that. I did try to find some that did not, and could not find any.<BR/>If this doesn't belong, then just take them out. So now there is a post that takes an open view for all.<BR/><BR/>But I will say with the moves I have made Bob and I have talked them over, but we have tried to listen to and hear God's call. I know quite a few clergy who do make decisions based on their spouses needs.<BR/><BR/>Sorry,<BR/>AbiAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14654861033242845082noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14710344.post-1160097785805666982006-10-05T21:23:00.000-04:002006-10-05T21:23:00.000-04:00SB: Disclaimer added. But goodness gracious, if I ...SB: Disclaimer added. But goodness gracious, if I could talk in public about the things going on in my life and DFH's with regard to career and vocation, all I can say is, I'm glad we're a team.Gallycathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00347338626554551296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14710344.post-1160097138277454822006-10-05T21:12:00.000-04:002006-10-05T21:12:00.000-04:00A caveat--the bloggers linked at the end of the po...A caveat--the bloggers linked at the end of the post are not ring members, and their exclusively masculine references to clergy do not reflect (I hope this is obvious) the purposes of the RevGalBlogPals webring. While there may be principles to extrapolate even from non-inclusive writings, I am fairly sure that listening to my wife will not be the answer to any call questions I may have! ;-)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08235049965406944684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14710344.post-1160096234962637332006-10-05T20:57:00.000-04:002006-10-05T20:57:00.000-04:00Helen,As usual, what a great job putting this toge...Helen,<BR/>As usual, what a great job putting this together in a readable, helpful post. Prayers for those who are discerning God's call for them.<BR/><BR/>I'm Methodist, and yes you can decide it is time to move, but it may not happen. And you may not decide to move and they move you anyway.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14654861033242845082noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14710344.post-1160095625859140782006-10-05T20:47:00.000-04:002006-10-05T20:47:00.000-04:00THis is the question I was going to send in (altho...THis is the question I was going to send in (although the financial part, not so much -- more family issues and personal growth)!<BR/><BR/>THanks.Gordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03767921257861340046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14710344.post-1160095139261321702006-10-05T20:38:00.000-04:002006-10-05T20:38:00.000-04:00This is such a thoughtful post(such is the consist...This is such a thoughtful post(such is the consistency of the matriarchs!)and I appreciated it so much even though Spouse and I are not on the move this year. I just wanted to say thank you in advance. I know we'll come back to these thoughts in months or years to come.<BR/><BR/>No fair name dropping David Allen! You must post about him immediately! Can you get him to do an online chat with the whole RevGal ring? I'm such a groupie. :)Priscahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11423440029110619532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14710344.post-1160093042024653372006-10-05T20:04:00.000-04:002006-10-05T20:04:00.000-04:00Oh-my-goodness! Did someone sneak a peek at my jou...Oh-my-goodness! Did someone sneak a peek at my journal? Did I talk in my sleep during a nocturnal visit? I know I didn't send this question in, butI could have - word-for-word.<BR/><BR/>Thank you for your responses and the links. I look forward to reading the wisdom of other readers who post comments.<BR/><BR/>P.S. An interview with David Allen? Tell us more!Janhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04271643598506103839noreply@blogger.com