tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14710344.post4738073511108865594..comments2023-11-03T05:46:44.728-04:00Comments on RevGalBlogPals: "Daughters of Miriam"Stephanie Anthony/She Revhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10089531643725874239noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14710344.post-89642152133958181502009-05-03T23:51:00.000-04:002009-05-03T23:51:00.000-04:00Yes, thanks Wil! Most helpful...Yes, thanks Wil! Most helpful...Terrihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15667178624061122421noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14710344.post-82731554119284480872009-04-30T11:40:00.000-04:002009-04-30T11:40:00.000-04:00I thought it might be helpful to post the reading ...I thought it might be helpful to post the reading strategy my students came up with for those for whom academic reading was some time ago.<br />1) Start with the glossary.<br />2) Go to Chapter 3, this where the women prophets in the Hebrew Bible are and why most people bought the book.<br />3) The last section of Chapter 5 has the female prophets in the New Testament and some discussion of the early church.<br />4) The beginning (and middle) of chapter 5 talks about how the Rabbis in the first - fourth centuries understood the female prophets in the Hebrew Bible.<br />5) Chapter 6 is my list of women who fit the category prophet in the bible but do not have the title.<br />6) Chapter 2 is the discussion of female prophets in neighboring nations, like Assyria.<br />7) Chapter 4 has some of the other professions in which ancient women engaged - the section on scribes comes highly recommended.<br />8) Chapter 1 is for the strong-of-heart: scholarly background, Hebrew vocabulary, etc.<br />Happy reading!Dr. Wil Gafneynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14710344.post-87352200467456173842009-04-29T00:45:00.000-04:002009-04-29T00:45:00.000-04:00Sue, I look forward to the link to your sermon and...Sue, I look forward to the link to your sermon and how it plays out over time helping your congregation and their fears of losing "family"...Terrihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15667178624061122421noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14710344.post-61229682502231840732009-04-28T21:29:00.000-04:002009-04-28T21:29:00.000-04:00Ooooo MaineCelt - love that one!!!
I may link my...Ooooo MaineCelt - love that one!!! <br /><br />I may link my sermon for Sunday over here as it will be directly related to our work over the BE weekend. It's beginning to form in my mind, but nothing has hit paper yet. I'll keep you posted. <br /><br />Yes, mompriest, you heard that in the same way that I did. This may actually be the part that best connects with my congregation as we enter into discussions re: amalgamation with another congregation. The biggest worry I've heard from our people is that the sense of "family" within our church will be lost. Something is connecting there about "who and whose we are".Suehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03407981987874669303noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14710344.post-75862402744528799432009-04-28T17:16:00.000-04:002009-04-28T17:16:00.000-04:00MaineCelt - love the she-verb...powerful! And your...MaineCelt - love the she-verb...powerful! And your comment on "from within what people do you come?" I could do a whole reflection on that concept....may be I will!<br /><br />Zorra - it will make an interesting adult forum - let us know how it goes!Terrihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15667178624061122421noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14710344.post-49139483768098109882009-04-28T12:37:00.000-04:002009-04-28T12:37:00.000-04:00I look forward to doing the she-verbs exercise wit...I look forward to doing the she-verbs exercise with an adult Sunday school class. There is a lot here that can (and will) be adapted for Adult Ed.zorrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00301856272073306968noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14710344.post-49934425663449336222009-04-28T11:24:00.000-04:002009-04-28T11:24:00.000-04:00Ooh, I just tried out the She-Verb exercise with t...Ooh, I just tried out the She-Verb exercise with the 4th chapter of the Book ' Judges. How exciting! (Not posting this to my blog, as it might confuse my farm customers, so I hope it's okay to post here instead.)<br /><br />Deborah's story is grand, but Jael's is compelling in a different way:<br /><br />She came out<br />She said<br />She opened<br />She gave<br />She took and she took<br />She went softly <br />and<br />She drove.<br />She went out<br />She said. (Judges 4:17-22)MaineCelthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06318937035647123010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14710344.post-72390035658141093072009-04-28T10:57:00.000-04:002009-04-28T10:57:00.000-04:00Mompriest: yes, it's the same for Gaels and, I su...Mompriest: yes, it's the same for Gaels and, I suspect, most indigenous peoples throughout the world. In Gaelic, one is not asked "where are you from" but rather "WHO are you from" or (a more literal translation) "From within what people do you come?" One is defined--given a location in the social landscape--in terms of one's relationship to others. One's lineage, therefore, is a precious thing to be maintained/recalled/preserved. Without it, a person becomes dislocated.MaineCelthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06318937035647123010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14710344.post-24503822181462973422009-04-27T21:37:00.000-04:002009-04-27T21:37:00.000-04:00Sue - good point, the begats were interesting. I w...Sue - good point, the begats were interesting. I was also intrigued by Wil's comment that not just women but all people named in the Old Testament, (or maybe she said Bible) are known by their relationships to other people - their family, their community...that men and women were known in community...unlike being individuals in our world today....<br /><br />Did I hear that correctly? Therefore it is also interesting to me in the begats, the matriarchiesTerrihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15667178624061122421noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14710344.post-52847968432814434722009-04-27T19:46:00.000-04:002009-04-27T19:46:00.000-04:00I'm actually still processing a lot of the materia...I'm actually still processing a lot of the material (I'm the founding member of the Slow Learners for Jesus Club) and will be pulling together my She-Verb exercise in the day or so. I'll post it here when it's done, but I think I may bounce off of mid-life rookies inspiration and work with Abigail's story. Something about it resonates with me on a really visceral level and I need to meditate some more on that...<br /><br />I also found the "begats" exercise to be quite enlightening. What we tend to think of as tedious dusty old geneology just jumped off the page for me when I viewed it through the lens of women prophets.Suehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03407981987874669303noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14710344.post-52008724694204176572009-04-27T17:49:00.000-04:002009-04-27T17:49:00.000-04:00She-words... what a lovely exercise! I posted m...She-words... what a lovely exercise! I posted mine here. Thanks Wil!<br /><br /><A HREF="http://revhrod.blogspot.com" REL="nofollow">my words are here</A>RevHRodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16487849573949444379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14710344.post-53658395620213360212009-04-27T15:51:00.000-04:002009-04-27T15:51:00.000-04:00I emailed Wil and invited her to comment and discu...I emailed Wil and invited her to comment and discuss here as she likes, then, if there is enough interest I can set up a blog to continue the discussion...I think that could be an exciting way to have an ongoing dialogue...Terrihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15667178624061122421noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14710344.post-55094786590944178762009-04-27T15:12:00.000-04:002009-04-27T15:12:00.000-04:00attended a retreat not too long ago centered upon ...attended a retreat not too long ago centered upon miriam... and during one exercise we were to draw what came to mind or journal... i still have this in my sketch book... but i remember being particularly struck by the fact that she stood up. she tood up to be seen. she tood up to be heard... there at the water...<br /><br />and well... many moons later those words bounced in my brain, and now my new life is underway b/c i stood up to be seen and heard...Hot Cup Lutheranhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00125425492709186198noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14710344.post-19758426956779234942009-04-27T14:05:00.000-04:002009-04-27T14:05:00.000-04:00There may even be an option for an "Ask the Author...There may even be an option for an "Ask the Author Guest Blog" if the web-weavers can set it up.Dr. Wil Gafneynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14710344.post-35459722852476218452009-04-27T13:56:00.000-04:002009-04-27T13:56:00.000-04:00MomPriest-- the Women's Seders sound wonderful. I...MomPriest-- the Women's Seders sound wonderful. I took some classes from a rabbi in college who took time to emphasize and celebrate the powerful women of the Hebrew Scriptures, and his approach was so deeply appreciated! Haven't been to a women-only seder, though. What fun!<br /><br />Mary Beth-- Hurrah for Fairy Bookmothers! Thank you very, very much!MaineCelthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06318937035647123010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14710344.post-65148111498976317102009-04-27T13:35:00.000-04:002009-04-27T13:35:00.000-04:00A crazy day for me, so my check-in here is a littl...A crazy day for me, so my check-in here is a little lunchtime respite. Phew! <br /><br />My She Verbs can be found <A HREF="http://marybethbutler.typepad.com/terrapin_station/2009/04/mary-the-sister-of-lazarus-in-verbs-from-john-112.html" REL="nofollow">here. </A>And MaineCelt, I have 2 copies of the book and would LOVE to send you my extra. Please send your mailing addy to me at marybethbutler AT gmail DOT com.<br /><br />:) Yay! Recycling!Mary Bethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02970052534402740820noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14710344.post-5472469328539652282009-04-27T13:26:00.000-04:002009-04-27T13:26:00.000-04:00My She Verbs are at my blog. I found it a powerful...My <A HREF="http://revsongbird.typepad.com/songbird_365/2009/04/she-verbs.html" REL="nofollow">She Verbs</A> are at my blog. I found it a powerful exercise. So much about women is hidden in the Bible. I appreciated learning more about how intervening interpretations and translations have downplayed women's roles.<br />I think the She Verb exercise would be great in an Adult Ed setting. The book itself is a hard enough read for a person no longer in an academic setting (I hate to admit it, but there you go). Hearing Wil Gafney's own expansion of her text was great.<br />I fully expect to use this material in preaching, perhaps very soon!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08235049965406944684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14710344.post-60041927518345840512009-04-27T12:13:00.000-04:002009-04-27T12:13:00.000-04:00MaineCelt, the only seder's I've attended have bee...MaineCelt, the only seder's I've attended have been "women's seder's" designed for mothers, daughters, and other female relatives to attend together...and they tell the story through Miriam's perspective - awesome! I went for several years because a good friend of mine was the rabbi...Terrihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15667178624061122421noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14710344.post-52021212055417267972009-04-27T12:02:00.000-04:002009-04-27T12:02:00.000-04:00I haven't been able to get my hands on a copy of t...I haven't been able to get my hands on a copy of this yet, tho' it's certainly on my Oh-My-Gosh-I-Really-Want-This-Book list.<br /><br />If any of you have done/attended a Passover Seder, there's a wonderful feminist addition to the ritual. It's called "Miriam's Cup," and it provides a time and place to honour these wonderful Foremothers in our shared heritage of faith. <br /><br />There's more information on it <A HREF="http://www.miriamscup.com" REL="nofollow">here.</A>MaineCelthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06318937035647123010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14710344.post-64688907768790011742009-04-27T11:19:00.000-04:002009-04-27T11:19:00.000-04:00Here are my she-verbs using the Samaritan women in...Here are my <A HREF="http://seekingauthenticvoice.blogspot.com/" REL="nofollow">she-verbs</A> using the Samaritan women in John and then Mary and Elizabeth in Luke 1.Terrihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15667178624061122421noreply@blogger.com