Dear Matriarchs,
Is it customary to give the pastor an honorarium for funerals? Most of my pastor friends receive some compensation for the work they put into that. However, where I am-- it seems to be just a given that the pastor does funerals for anybody who needs them--even if they haven't been a member of the church for 30 years. Families will gladly pay any musicians. (Including my husband who sang at a service for a church member a few months ago-- paid him a nice sum and told me "Thanks so much! That was such a lovely service." Umm...he spent 15 minutes getting ready for that. I spent nearly 15 hours by time it was all said and done.) Now, I've just learned that a family who came to our church years ago wishes to have a memorial service on Saturday. Not only is that adding to my work week considerably (especially since I'm a one-woman band-- no secretary or anything) and taking up one of my days off, but the family is out of town and thus is not working with a local funeral home. The family seems to be under the impression that I am a funeral director who is happy to make calls to arrange for bagpipes and musicians as well as working out the military honors with whomever does that. And they would also like me to be available on Friday (my other day off) to receive flower deliveries. "You only live two doors down from the church, right? Can I give them your cell phone number for deliveries?" I have set boundaries and indicated that I would not be in town to receive flowers and have given them numbers where they might make arrangements for bagpipes. However, I am feeling taken advantage of-- and am getting generally grouchy about the matter. I recognize that it is to late to handle this situation by asking for an honorarium, but I would like to be proactive in the future and have a policy in place--especially since my church does not. I'm not as grouchy about people that are active members of my church, but the expectation that I am happy to do funerals for people I've never met because they once came to our church seems a bit ridiculous to me. I would appreciate any wisdom you have to offer!
Blessings!
Fuming inFayetteville
Is it customary to give the pastor an honorarium for funerals? Most of my pastor friends receive some compensation for the work they put into that. However, where I am-- it seems to be just a given that the pastor does funerals for anybody who needs them--even if they haven't been a member of the church for 30 years. Families will gladly pay any musicians. (Including my husband who sang at a service for a church member a few months ago-- paid him a nice sum and told me "Thanks so much! That was such a lovely service." Umm...he spent 15 minutes getting ready for that. I spent nearly 15 hours by time it was all said and done.) Now, I've just learned that a family who came to our church years ago wishes to have a memorial service on Saturday. Not only is that adding to my work week considerably (especially since I'm a one-woman band-- no secretary or anything) and taking up one of my days off, but the family is out of town and thus is not working with a local funeral home. The family seems to be under the impression that I am a funeral director who is happy to make calls to arrange for bagpipes and musicians as well as working out the military honors with whomever does that. And they would also like me to be available on Friday (my other day off) to receive flower deliveries. "You only live two doors down from the church, right? Can I give them your cell phone number for deliveries?" I have set boundaries and indicated that I would not be in town to receive flowers and have given them numbers where they might make arrangements for bagpipes. However, I am feeling taken advantage of-- and am getting generally grouchy about the matter. I recognize that it is to late to handle this situation by asking for an honorarium, but I would like to be proactive in the future and have a policy in place--especially since my church does not. I'm not as grouchy about people that are active members of my church, but the expectation that I am happy to do funerals for people I've never met because they once came to our church seems a bit ridiculous to me. I would appreciate any wisdom you have to offer!
Blessings!
Fuming in
First,
from Jennifer, who blogs at An
Orientation of Heart:
If
you have a governing body, like a council or a Session or a vestry, do get them
involved in formulating a policy that feels acceptable to all. Would the fee be
the same for members vs. non-members? Is there a difference in the fee if
you’re conducting the funeral from the church or at the graveside or a funeral
home?
Good
stuff for a group to talk over, I’d say.
With
a policy in place, you can offer the policy up front to folks who need your
services.
Best
to you
From
Martha, blogging at Reflectionary
When you say "where I am," do you mean in your church? Or are there other pastors in town not being paid? An honorarium for the pastor is absolutely customary in my area. Occasionally I hear of pastors who always give the money to the church, but most modestly paid colleagues--which is to say most colleagues--don't do that. (A predecessor in my first call told me that he was always grateful for the way a funeral would come just when both his boys needed new gym shoes!)
The easiest way to determine local trends is by asking the funeral directors in your area what their "usual and customary" honorarium for the pastor is. My church has a rate sheet on file with the funeral homes, and in the event we end up working with someone other than our two "usuals," I have a copy to send out via mail or email. This includes what the musicians are paid, and the Sexton, and what it costs to rent the hall for a reception after the service, and what it costs to use the Sanctuary and the services of the pastor for a non-member funeral.
It's fairly typical in this area that church members do not need to pay to use the sanctuary, and I used to say the same about my services for church members. An experience with a demanding family made me fume, too (I didn't have to find a bagpiper, but there were other frustrations). I didn't like being upset about it when they paid everyone except me, but I was. After complaining to everyone appropriate who would listen, and getting the feedback that it was not unreasonable to be upset, I changed the policy. I also raised my rate to match the usual and customary for the up-market town in one direction instead of the downward-trending town in the other (a difference of $50). If a church member's family really couldn't afford the extra expense, I would be likely to know that and would of course gladly waive the fee.
I have concluded that some people will believe our services are worth nothing if we don't ask for something, and they will then treat us accordingly.
In your corner,
From Dorcas, who blogs at The Owl’s Song
I absolutely agree that it
seems a bit ridiculous to expect that you would be happy to do a “free funeral”
for someone who came to church once upon a time. An honorarium is
absolutely expected. I discovered the hard way (some really difficult
funerals and crazy family) that I had to come up with guidelines for
funerals. (Weddings too, for that matter.) What I thought was
common knowledge apparently wasn’t, and after receiving nothing but a thank
you, or maybe not even that much, I came up with a set of guidelines that
specified that an honorarium was expected (I gave a range of $50 to
$150). But I also included other things. For example, I reserved
the right to review musical selections, etc. And no photographs during
the service. That one got added after a cousin came up to the open casket
during the service and snapped a flash photo. I’m very
flexible about that sort of thing, but there are limits and many people these
days seem to have no idea that certain things, songs, etc. are just not
appropriate in some settings. Anyway, when contacted about doing a
funeral, particularly for someone I did not know, it doesn’t take long for me
to say, “I do have guidelines I’d like to send. This is a difficult time
to make decisions, and having some things clear in advance will likely make it
easier on everyone.” Hopefully most people at least have email so you can
attach it and it can be quicker that way. I also gave a copy to the local
funeral directors who sometimes called for a family looking for clergy.
And from Muthah+, blogging
at Stone of Witness
As I get older and know
that someone will have to do my funeral at some point, I am listening closely
to your comments. I am to be buried in the graveyard of my first church
and I will have been gone from there for years. So this is rather an important
issue for me too.
There are several things
that you can do to help yourself:
· Check with your lay leadership and explain the
amount of time you are putting into the funerals and discuss what kind of
remuneration you should receive. Then they can support you as you put
into place some good guidelines for your congregation. And most likely
they will use them long after you leave.
· When you meet with the family, you should provide
them with the cost of the funeral--the use of the building, the the bulletin
prep., the time of those who prepare the sanctuary, those who clean up
afterwards and those who do the flowers etc. Have a little tri-fold on
"Funerals at St. Swithen" For out of town folks, send them an
e-copy of the pamphlet. Your fee should be just a part of what the parish
should receive for having the funeral in the parish.
· You should also have a funeral/wedding committee or
altar prep group of lay folks who make it their ministry to do such things as
receiving the flowers and preparing the church for the funeral. That should
never be the pastor's responsibility.
· Talk with your funeral home directors. I was
in small town ministry and I worked with the funeral directors and they often
gave me the check for those who were not regular members of the parish or from
out of town. I would tell them a fair amount for the preparation that I
did and they then negotiated my fee. I was in one town, though, that I
didn't trust the funeral director. So you need to know your territory.
The people in your town or city know who the honest guys are. So do
other clergy in your area.
· It was understood that members in good standing of
the parish did not need offer an honorarium and that was fine with me.
· You are always going to get stiffed by a
minority--I don't know why people think they can get away with it. But I
have found that when I make my expectations known, someone will mention it to
the family. People who are not church folks do not know how much planning
a funeral takes. They truly think we can do it out of our hip pockets--or
they have no notion of how we are paid.
· If you are in a large parish where the business
model is normal for your parish, you could send them a bill. But first
talk to those around you to see what the going rate is and what is the local
norm.
· I was in the North for much of my career and
throughout the winter internment was separated from the actual
funerals and so all of those internments had to be done usually
before Memorial Day. I always had to find a way that my Saturdays were
clear the weekends in May so that I could get those done.
There will always be some
funerals where you don't want to receive payment. Just let the family
know that this is your gift to them given whatever circumstance it was. I
often did funerals for the poor in our communities for nothing simply because
the cost of the funeral home was often more than they could handle.
I am sorry you were
ignored at this funeral. You aren't the first and won't be the last and
it will happen enough times in your ministry for you to notice just how people
who are not part of the congregation respect the clergy. It is one of the
down sides of doing this work--but at the same time it is often at those
service that people find the Church after being away for years. I always
felt that the ministry expended always came back to me or the congregation some
how even if I personally wasn't paid.
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May you live in God's amazing grace+
revhoney